joining us is ceo of better markets, dennis kelleher. good evening. thank you for joining us. >> hi, john. >> john: hi, there. it seems like hank greenberg should write a book called "the seven habits of highly despicable people." are you shocked he's doing this in daylight? >> unfortunately, you know, when you see mendacity on wall street you're only shocked because it is not criminality which they're more expert at. but i had to laugh at the commercials that i see. they're spending millions and millions of dollars trying to convince the american people that they're grateful although it is really p.r. spin. they're not just grateful but they're wonderful people. they're going to have to say thank you so much for the bailout but we're going to sue you because we really want more of your money. >> john: the world trade center was an especially egreenous twist at the end. it remindeds me of the bp commercials about how much better the gulf is now. >> without all of the oil spill they couldn't have cleaned it up as so well. >> john: god bless them. what